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remember, if we do go over the fiscal cliff that will take the whole market down, so you put this on a shopping list, because that could give you a terrific entry point. i think the housing cycle is so darn strong, it can trump the ills of the fiscal cliff, at least once it's sorted out. ultimately the cliff will be sorted out. of the three housing-related ipos, you need to be careful with zillow and trulia, the only one i will endorse is realogy, and only if it comes down to a level where it's cheap. how about michael in california, please? michael. >> caller: boo-yah to you, jim. with a solid dividend that pays monthly at almost a 16% yield, its current valuation a dollar beneath book value, isn't a.r.r. a great value? >> you know what? i have thought it was. this is another one of those real estate mortgage reits that i have somewhat been mystified about the price performance. someone asked about this on the street, and i said i think it should be doing better. i agree, i think it's an okay buy. john in oregon, please. >> caller: boo-yah, jimmy, how are you? >> boo-yah back at you
remember, if we do go over the fiscal cliff that will take the whole market down, so you put this on a shopping list, because that could give you a terrific entry point. i think the housing cycle is so darn strong, it can trump the ills of the fiscal cliff, at least once it's sorted out. ultimately the cliff will be sorted out. of the three housing-related ipos, you need to be careful with zillow and trulia, the only one i will endorse is realogy, and only if it comes down to a level where it's...
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if it does come down a bit because of the fiscal cliff, that's small pockets. overall, in general in the country, we are seeing a firm price recovery. >> but the big issue there is, if we eliminate the mortgage tax deduction for people under $1 million, we could really get hurt. >> that's a great point. this is why everything is tied to this fiscal cliff. >> exactly. >> you take out the mortgage deduction, and the traction we saw on the housing market reverses course. >> totally. i don't see how we can give $8,000 credits one year and the next year we take away the mortgage tax detux. a little consistency would be nice. >> are high-end home prices, do you think, are they ever going to go back to where we were when we saw them at the peak? >> for the highest end of the market, yes. i think they'll go even above the peak. >> why do you believe that? >> because people looking at real estate really as an asset again. i think a lot of money is out of the markets and back in real estate. when you're getting 20% on your money, it's going to be in the markets. when you
if it does come down a bit because of the fiscal cliff, that's small pockets. overall, in general in the country, we are seeing a firm price recovery. >> but the big issue there is, if we eliminate the mortgage tax deduction for people under $1 million, we could really get hurt. >> that's a great point. this is why everything is tied to this fiscal cliff. >> exactly. >> you take out the mortgage deduction, and the traction we saw on the housing market reverses course....
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this stock will go down on a fiscal cliff situation. that might be the chance to buy the rest. "mad money" is back after the break. >>> every now and then a piece research comes along and blows your mind. forces you to reexamine assumptions you thought were etched in stone. that's how i feel about today's incredible goldman sachs upgrade of dell. not from hold to buy. but from sell to buy. initially i dismissed this piece, written by old hand bill shoep as sophistry. i was reacting to the headline report of the change of recommendation. what makes me so intrigued now? first there's nothing like being right and boy has he been right about this one. he took dell to a sell two years ago. stock dropped 31% versus a 14% gain in the s&p 500. if that doesn't grab your attention, i don't know what will. second he's not making outrageous claims with the upgrade, the stock was at $9 when he made the call and he's using a $13 target. shoep has been very much against investing in the deep-value hardware plays, and he's felt that forever. he's been all over the shift in mobility and cloud c
this stock will go down on a fiscal cliff situation. that might be the chance to buy the rest. "mad money" is back after the break. >>> every now and then a piece research comes along and blows your mind. forces you to reexamine assumptions you thought were etched in stone. that's how i feel about today's incredible goldman sachs upgrade of dell. not from hold to buy. but from sell to buy. initially i dismissed this piece, written by old hand bill shoep as sophistry. i was...
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wheef been whipsawing up and down, based on fears about fiscal cliff. and hopes that we might get a possible deal to bridge the fiscal cliff in washington. but through the period these ten growth stocks have held up surprisingly well. i say surprising, because these stocks all had huge gains going into the fourth quarter. and with the fiscal cliff looming, many investors have been selling their biggest winners to take advantage of the low capital gains tax that will likely go away come january. if we get a positive resolution to the fiscal cliff. you'll want to buy these stocks hand over fist. because then they'll really be air to roar. how have the anounted names done? >> amazon starteded at 259, pulled back to 220. before rebounding to 250, where it is right now. google has been pounded. it went from over 760 to below 660, but it's rebounded to 695. mastercard and visa, they took 25-point dives. i told to you buy them into weakness. falling from 475 to 450, and valued to 487. great ones to buy now. a dozen points where above where i recommended. that'
wheef been whipsawing up and down, based on fears about fiscal cliff. and hopes that we might get a possible deal to bridge the fiscal cliff in washington. but through the period these ten growth stocks have held up surprisingly well. i say surprising, because these stocks all had huge gains going into the fourth quarter. and with the fiscal cliff looming, many investors have been selling their biggest winners to take advantage of the low capital gains tax that will likely go away come january....
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cramer is keeping you one step ahead of the fiscal cliff fiasco. tonight he is getting a read on the regionals the ceo of a national bank. to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. n you take a closer look.... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. is bigger than we think ... sometimelike the flu.fer from with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differently than over-the-counter remedies. presc
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i suspect the toll tells a story that it goes down the fiscal cliff monday. every day is fiscal cliff tuesday, wednesday, thursday. you get the picture. anyway, you should pull the trigger here to buy it here if the fiscal cliff does what i'm afraid of. brown foreman reports wednesday. this is an interesting one. why? because goldman downgraded it to sell. just last night. i've seen this movie. they were wrong last time. they'll be wrong again. i'm going to bet them a bottle of jack daniels that will be the case. in fact i'll bet them a case of jack daniels that will be the case. if they're close, as we told you we like asina. and i would be willing to be a buyer of that niche retailer ahead of this quarter because of some merger gains i think we'll hear about. but again only on news of setbacks to the fiscal cliff talks. we're not going to go in and buy anything these days. you'll get some representative congressman, senator come on say you stupid idiot. you bought stock and i'm talking on a microphone. i'm sending the stock market down because there's no pr
i suspect the toll tells a story that it goes down the fiscal cliff monday. every day is fiscal cliff tuesday, wednesday, thursday. you get the picture. anyway, you should pull the trigger here to buy it here if the fiscal cliff does what i'm afraid of. brown foreman reports wednesday. this is an interesting one. why? because goldman downgraded it to sell. just last night. i've seen this movie. they were wrong last time. they'll be wrong again. i'm going to bet them a bottle of jack daniels...
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let me move on to your meeting with the president about the fiscal cliff. >> sure. it was optimistic. president very inclusive of business. he was open to a broad set of solutions that included all aspects, not just revenue, but spending and entitlement reform. >> so you actually felt that you saw a difference. you say it wasn't always like that. you saw a difference in the president in terms of listening and perhaps taking advice on what's to be done fiscally? >> the president had made comments he was trying to embrace the business community. he was very constructive. >> where do you think we come out on the fiscal cliff? are you expecting the economy to go over the fiscal cliff and see these taxes go high hadder and spending cuts take effect? >> my personal view is i'm still optimistic. i think the conversation has been constructive since. do we have a solution on the table yet? no. but i'm optimistic we'll get to a framework. >> why? >> there's been enough dialogue. there's been movement. everyone seems to recognize the problem. everybody realizes there has to be
let me move on to your meeting with the president about the fiscal cliff. >> sure. it was optimistic. president very inclusive of business. he was open to a broad set of solutions that included all aspects, not just revenue, but spending and entitlement reform. >> so you actually felt that you saw a difference. you say it wasn't always like that. you saw a difference in the president in terms of listening and perhaps taking advice on what's to be done fiscally? >> the...
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we need to deal with the fiscal cliff. have a credible down payment on the tax and spending side. bridge to a grand bargain next year. the fiscal cliff is the symptom. structural deficit is the disease. we need to learn from australia, canada, new zealand, sweden. we need to do it next year. >> all right. >> get dr. dave to washington right away so that we avoid what cramer on "meet the press" this weekend had great line. he said on january 8th when the reporting starts, there will be a foot race to fire people if we don't get this cliff taken care of which is why if we're going over the
we need to deal with the fiscal cliff. have a credible down payment on the tax and spending side. bridge to a grand bargain next year. the fiscal cliff is the symptom. structural deficit is the disease. we need to learn from australia, canada, new zealand, sweden. we need to do it next year. >> all right. >> get dr. dave to washington right away so that we avoid what cramer on "meet the press" this weekend had great line. he said on january 8th when the reporting starts,...
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. >> what don't they know about the fiscal cliff? >> they look to be down 10%. >> we'll watch it. as people know in this market, many times the stock price has been going up. we'll keep an eye on this. it may be throwing people. what does it say about copper overall and the price of the metal. >> i worry, by the way, watch energy 21. this is exxi. another company that bought old properties. one of the things that's happening that's driving this, okay, is that there's new technology. american technology that's able to access oil that the big guys have given up on whether it be exxon given up on energy 21 has or bp and it turns out that these fines may have been bigger so pxp takes advantage of the fact there's new technology. pxp is a deal maker but ready to trade because capital gains taxes are going up. could be a fiscal cliff. the gulf is hotter than it's ever been even a few years ago it was ice cold. >> big story in the journal about exploration in this country. production 15-year high. brand new chapter here. look at the bottom of your screen. citigroup is cutting 11,000 jobs
. >> what don't they know about the fiscal cliff? >> they look to be down 10%. >> we'll watch it. as people know in this market, many times the stock price has been going up. we'll keep an eye on this. it may be throwing people. what does it say about copper overall and the price of the metal. >> i worry, by the way, watch energy 21. this is exxi. another company that bought old properties. one of the things that's happening that's driving this, okay, is that there's new...
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if the fiscal cliff has you nervous, this may be some relaxing news. as of midnight last night, washington is now the first state in the united states to legalize marijuana for adult recreational use, but the law is not without complications. jane wells is live in l.a. with more on that story. good morning, jane. >> hi, carl. lighting up in seattle is one thing. figuring out how these laws are going to work is another. pot possession may be legal in washington, but it will be another year before the state sets up the bureaucracy, creating a network of legal growers and retailers. they're going to have to set standards for thc. but what about pricing? the state is hoping to raise $600 million a year for pot and they say it could add 5% to gross state product by 2017. but ktlu reports the state's office of finance management says retail prices and medical pot clinics are already $3er gram higher than street prices and you add in taxes. are people going to pay more if they can get it for less. and in colorado, its pot law goes into effect next month but t
if the fiscal cliff has you nervous, this may be some relaxing news. as of midnight last night, washington is now the first state in the united states to legalize marijuana for adult recreational use, but the law is not without complications. jane wells is live in l.a. with more on that story. good morning, jane. >> hi, carl. lighting up in seattle is one thing. figuring out how these laws are going to work is another. pot possession may be legal in washington, but it will be another year...
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you want to know how to fix the fiscal cliff? you have to raise taxes on those 250 above and cap deductions and a cap in deductions on everybody loon looks to be marginally acceptable. we'll have a chance to talk about that chart later but i hear you have some interesting guests on this issue coming up. >> we're talking about that chart and will catch you up later. also the joint economic committee will hold a hearing on the fiscal cliff. can congress come up with a compromise before the looming deadline? senator robert casey and jec vice chairman tom brady joins us from texas. thank you for being here. you have a lot of things happening behind the scenes. senator casey, i know you have said what we're watching is a lot of drama and probably taking our eye off the ball in terms of what's happening. can you tell us if there's progress being made behind the scenes? >> i think there's a little bit too much attention paid to the back and forth every day. there's still a long way to go here and frankly a good bit of time to do it in.
you want to know how to fix the fiscal cliff? you have to raise taxes on those 250 above and cap deductions and a cap in deductions on everybody loon looks to be marginally acceptable. we'll have a chance to talk about that chart later but i hear you have some interesting guests on this issue coming up. >> we're talking about that chart and will catch you up later. also the joint economic committee will hold a hearing on the fiscal cliff. can congress come up with a compromise before the...
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is there anything that could happen out of the fiscal cliff negotiations that could cause you to ratchet down that expectation? >> sure. so here's the worst case scenario. we go over the cliff for an extended period of time and that a basically throws us into a global recession, a u.s. recession that bleeds into a global recession. in that case, you know, i would not necessarily be as bullish as i am today. but i actually think that we get our act together. we come up with a reasonable solution. maybe a messy kind of multistage fix. but we do get to some kind of a point of clarity come mid next year. at that point, i think what drives the market higher is that corporations who are sitting on tons of cash actually start to spend it and do something interesting and growth acreative with all the capital they've been hoarding. >> when you say they'll get to something -- how long do you think they have? i think they really don't have very long at all after the beginning of the year. >> i agree. i think the longer they wait, the worse it gets. what i think happens is the market -- >> but they
is there anything that could happen out of the fiscal cliff negotiations that could cause you to ratchet down that expectation? >> sure. so here's the worst case scenario. we go over the cliff for an extended period of time and that a basically throws us into a global recession, a u.s. recession that bleeds into a global recession. in that case, you know, i would not necessarily be as bullish as i am today. but i actually think that we get our act together. we come up with a reasonable...
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this is a fiscal cliff now. this is a prisoner's dilemma and everybody is staring each other down and we're all sitting at a poker table wondering who has the best cards. >> so what do you think will happen with global central banks? we know the fed will take operation twist and turn it into qe-3-b, i guess. i don't know what you want to call it. but instead of swapping short term for long term debt, it's going to buy long term debt outright. >> printing money, right. >> conventional quantitative easing, printing money, whatever you want to call it. and what are we expecting out of europe? what is this with the 1.30 on the euro, a currency everybody says ought to weaken? >> but there are still people who are when the risk on models take over, they buy the euro. that won't last forever as we're starting to see what's going on in france. but spain is certainly the next issue. they had to push greece out of the way and it's interesting the way they resolved greece was exactly what the germans have leaked to reuters
this is a fiscal cliff now. this is a prisoner's dilemma and everybody is staring each other down and we're all sitting at a poker table wondering who has the best cards. >> so what do you think will happen with global central banks? we know the fed will take operation twist and turn it into qe-3-b, i guess. i don't know what you want to call it. but instead of swapping short term for long term debt, it's going to buy long term debt outright. >> printing money, right. >>...
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it actually blamed the fiscal cliff in part, as well as super storm sandy. the ceo said consumers were distracted by the cliff. the storm and the election. staying with clothing, vera bradley -- well, handbags. those shares also tanking and they are blaming sandy as well but also noted their holiday season is off to a slow start. jeffri jeffries raising the tart fro tm $22 to $20. not all bad news. finisar, higher demand for tranceivers. what else? the stock down 17% year to date. finally, zynga. take a look at shares. they are up nearly 7% because they filed for a gambling license. that is right. the virtual game company wants to become a real poker company. let's bring in julia boorstin with more on this zynga story. seems like if they get it, a completely transformative thing. >> it would be transformative and zynga's definitely pushing forward with its plans to eventually make money from online gambling but the key thing here is that this is really a ways off. the stock soared as much as 9% higher this morning after it came out that zynga applied for rea
it actually blamed the fiscal cliff in part, as well as super storm sandy. the ceo said consumers were distracted by the cliff. the storm and the election. staying with clothing, vera bradley -- well, handbags. those shares also tanking and they are blaming sandy as well but also noted their holiday season is off to a slow start. jeffri jeffries raising the tart fro tm $22 to $20. not all bad news. finisar, higher demand for tranceivers. what else? the stock down 17% year to date. finally,...
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cliff and he's real upset and angry and stuff and then the stocks won't go down 10% because of that senator or congressman or that treasury guy and then you get a chance to buy high-quality companies kept down for washington. let's wait for the next gas bag to grab the mike and we'll get them cheaper. in washington, will you please get out of our way? we've got a genuine boom brewing if only washington would rise above and set it free. "mad money" will be right back. >>> coming up -- fueling the future? there's new data out about the positive impact of natural gas on the u.s. economy and employment. could exporting this domestic power be our ticket to a bright future? and how could you hop aboard the trend? tonight, cramer drills down on the issue with dominion resources ceo. >>> and later, agita over apple. while the most coveted gifts, weigh on investors. should you step in now? or is the worst still to come? don't miss cramer's take. >>> plus -- welcome home? you've seen the headlines. the housing market appears to be roaring back to life. but if you think you've already missed t
cliff and he's real upset and angry and stuff and then the stocks won't go down 10% because of that senator or congressman or that treasury guy and then you get a chance to buy high-quality companies kept down for washington. let's wait for the next gas bag to grab the mike and we'll get them cheaper. in washington, will you please get out of our way? we've got a genuine boom brewing if only washington would rise above and set it free. "mad money" will be right back. >>>...
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but first -- >>> still to come with the fiscal cliff getting closer -- >> if i were involved in a negotiation like this and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say that an agreement was reachable. >> we will help you rise above the rhetoric. former federal reserve vice chair alice rivlin, all that and much more on "squawk on the street." wooohooo....hahaahahaha! oh...there you go. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! i'm gonna stand up to her! no you're not. i know. you know ronny folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than a witch in a broom factory. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. serves as director of the national budget. recently served as a mechanical of the simpson bowles commission. you look lovely as always. i'm told you're wearing a rather important pin. >> yes, i have on the pin. i'm in favor of rising above all this part san ship and getting deal done. >> you think that's possible, but you're not sure what that can happen by year's end. you want to give your expecta
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this is going to go right down to december 21st in avoiding the fiscal cliff. don't think anything differently. >> today one of the streets most bullish market watchers is is making a pretty bold prediction saying the s&p 500 is going to rally 17% by the end of next year. tony dwire joins us now. good to have you. >> thanks. >> i'm wondering how you're dealing with your predictions and your forecasting on the markets when you have such gyrations due to what's going on with the fiscal cliff. >> well, truthfully, you know, hopefully what makes me a little bit different on the street, i really try not to guess. what they're going to say, it's impossible. what i fall back to is what's the tactical outlook? we had a nice 5% move off of that low. our view is you've always retested that kind of intermediate term low. we're looking for a little pullback. ultima ultimately, don't fight the fed and don't fight the tape. when i talk to people, you kind of think about it. why isn't it follow the fed or follow the tape? because every cycle we think the fed is not going to d
this is going to go right down to december 21st in avoiding the fiscal cliff. don't think anything differently. >> today one of the streets most bullish market watchers is is making a pretty bold prediction saying the s&p 500 is going to rally 17% by the end of next year. tony dwire joins us now. good to have you. >> thanks. >> i'm wondering how you're dealing with your predictions and your forecasting on the markets when you have such gyrations due to what's going on with...
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the risk of the fiscal cliff. i point out one thing though, on this weakness, if you believe japan in 2013 is going to be the sleeper equities market that some do, then you want to own tiffany. >> delta, simon? >> singapore airlines in their talk to sell virgin atlantic to delta. richard branson, don't do it. we'll be buying peanuts again in six months. >> southwestern energy getting a pop. >> stephanie brought this to my attention earlier. there is some chatter out there this could be a potential acquisition candidate. obviously, never a great thing to chase or a reason to buy a stock but maybe a good reason to do some research. it's about a $12 billion company can. little bit of chatter, little bit of a pop today. something worth keeping on your radar if you like energy stocks. >> and how about unicorns? they're getting a pop today. hold on. north korea says it's found a union core. the state run news agency says that kim jong-il shot is 11 holes in one in a single game of golf says the dwelling was once inhabit
the risk of the fiscal cliff. i point out one thing though, on this weakness, if you believe japan in 2013 is going to be the sleeper equities market that some do, then you want to own tiffany. >> delta, simon? >> singapore airlines in their talk to sell virgin atlantic to delta. richard branson, don't do it. we'll be buying peanuts again in six months. >> southwestern energy getting a pop. >> stephanie brought this to my attention earlier. there is some chatter out...
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dow futures at this point are down about by 22. >>> what impact will going over the fiscal cliff have on stocks? we've been talking about it with our guest host dan gilbert. we've decided we have time? >> as far as the fiscal cliff? >> no, we have time for mortgages. >> i think we have time. the fed has stated they want to hold short-term interest rates through 2014. we know they don't technically control long-term interest rates unless they are buying mortgages which they have done over the last couple years. so, you know, it appears by all measures that you have some time, but you never know because these things can change very rapidly. rates tend to go up higher a lot quicker than they come down. >> you've seen the commercial allied financial where they say the greatest economists in the world and a nobel laureate and do you know where interest rates are going in a year, and he says no. we should know what cd rates are going. >> i think they've done the best they can -- >> what is the maximum amount cd rates could fluctuate in the next 12 months? >> could fluctuate? >> a quarter po
dow futures at this point are down about by 22. >>> what impact will going over the fiscal cliff have on stocks? we've been talking about it with our guest host dan gilbert. we've decided we have time? >> as far as the fiscal cliff? >> no, we have time for mortgages. >> i think we have time. the fed has stated they want to hold short-term interest rates through 2014. we know they don't technically control long-term interest rates unless they are buying mortgages which...
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let's be aware, retail, shaky ground because of my friend, buddy pal, fiscal cliff. let's go to chris in connecticut, please, chris? >> caller: boo-yah. i want to know where you stand on -- >> i don't know, where i stand, it's already too high. this thing does not come in. i would prefer you to be in eqt, which i think i reiterated this morning and i think is much better. there are lots of people who say there will be blockbuster natural gas deals coming down the road and that's why cabot stays high, plus incredible marcellus holdings. when i first heard about it, it was through cog and i thought it was like veal, but it turned out to be a good place for natural gas. that is the conclusion of the "lightning round"! >> the "lightning round" is sponsored by td ameritrade. >>> coming up -- waiting for washington to rise above? get your portfolio prepared for whatever happens. call, tweet, or e-mail and find your way to the latest edition of "am i diversified." isk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the ma
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of the action downtown at the nyse. >> stocks are slightly lower right now despite those fiscal cliff anxieties. they've been pretty steady throughout the day. the s&p 500 broke above its 50-day moving average, believe it or not. earlier in the day it's backed off a little bit. economic news and new data shows u.s. manufacturing falling to its lowest level in three years. and there is a little nervousness about the president taking to twitter at 2:00 p.m. eastern time to talk about the fiscal cliff negotiations that are going on. but it is the first trading day of the month and some on wall street are getting bullish for year end. it is going to be a december to remember, i predict it. >> i think this is one of the reasons we're holding up so well, because december is the best month of the year and we roll into january which is also a very good month. let me show you some sectors that do especially well in the month of december. there's major sectors here. this is the best performing sectors in the month of december, averaged over the last ten years. you can see it is a diverse group
of the action downtown at the nyse. >> stocks are slightly lower right now despite those fiscal cliff anxieties. they've been pretty steady throughout the day. the s&p 500 broke above its 50-day moving average, believe it or not. earlier in the day it's backed off a little bit. economic news and new data shows u.s. manufacturing falling to its lowest level in three years. and there is a little nervousness about the president taking to twitter at 2:00 p.m. eastern time to talk about...
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the soap opera we call the fiscal cliff. before we get to our chief washington john harwood and the president is meeting with another grouch ceos, i need to start with eamon javers on capitol hill where lawmakers are skipping down early for a long weekend. eamon, wasn't thanksgiving just a couple weeks ago? >> it was. let me check michael ichaey cal. you see rank and file members of congress leaving the capitol. they are done for the week. they're headed back loam to their hometown districts. a lot of folks focused on this negotiation right now but the reality is that the negotiations are taking place among just a very few, very high level people. i was talking to a few rank and file members yesterday who said they were frustrated there is not a whole lot for them to do, they are just sitting around here waiting for some break-through in these negotiations. they want something to do on the floor, in their offices and there is not much for them to sink their teeth into. now they're going into their district. leadership is goi
the soap opera we call the fiscal cliff. before we get to our chief washington john harwood and the president is meeting with another grouch ceos, i need to start with eamon javers on capitol hill where lawmakers are skipping down early for a long weekend. eamon, wasn't thanksgiving just a couple weeks ago? >> it was. let me check michael ichaey cal. you see rank and file members of congress leaving the capitol. they are done for the week. they're headed back loam to their hometown...
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. >> for what, the fiscal cliff or the fiscal abyss? >> for both. >> for both. >> so that a down payment -- a compromise down payment on approximately $4 trillion. i think when you pull it apart, you have about a trillion dollars in discretionary spending that has mostly been agreed upon and you have taxes and the entitlements, the mandatory. >> the entitlements are the sticking point. whoa. did you see that? you think that's funny? >> set that up for you. >> you think that's funny, mac? you do this? look at this. this is booby trapped, man. it won't stay up. which can really be a problem. you can laugh at that. it's okay. nobody's watching. it's 6:00 a.m. that got you going. >> when you look through, i guess the devil is in the details in terms of what you're looking at in spending, cuts, entitlement cuts and with the tax increases, and you're right, both sides have put a plan on the table. they're pretty far apart, but at least now you know there's some framework for how you get to the middle. what do you think, 1.2 trillion in tax in
. >> for what, the fiscal cliff or the fiscal abyss? >> for both. >> for both. >> so that a down payment -- a compromise down payment on approximately $4 trillion. i think when you pull it apart, you have about a trillion dollars in discretionary spending that has mostly been agreed upon and you have taxes and the entitlements, the mandatory. >> the entitlements are the sticking point. whoa. did you see that? you think that's funny? >> set that up for you....
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it is more a fiscal mole hill next year than a fiscal cliff. but offsetting that is an economy which is firing on many more cylinders than it was a year ago. employment rate's coming down. bank lending rising, housing activity going up, confidence is down, debt burdens are down. in addition there is a lot of stimulus. money supply is growing rapidly. record low mortgage rates. we have the dollar down. we got gas prices falling at the pump for the holiday season. we've got inflation decelerating from where it was helping real incomes. i'm seeing a lot of evidence of china showing signs of new acceleration. we might get the emerging world doing better next year. we've certainly calmed down concerns about the eurozone. so i think there's a real case that we grow 3%, the emerging world picks up, and the valuation on equities rises -- >> even if we don't get a deal in taxes? we hear that the average family will pay $1,200 more in taxes over the year and it is going to doom the economy. it's instant recession. >> well, there's no doubt if we have com
it is more a fiscal mole hill next year than a fiscal cliff. but offsetting that is an economy which is firing on many more cylinders than it was a year ago. employment rate's coming down. bank lending rising, housing activity going up, confidence is down, debt burdens are down. in addition there is a lot of stimulus. money supply is growing rapidly. record low mortgage rates. we have the dollar down. we got gas prices falling at the pump for the holiday season. we've got inflation decelerating...
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cliff. this time it was house speaker boehner speaking with reporters after meeting with treasury secretary tim geithner. eamon javers is in washington with the latest. eamon, the sentiment down here is these guys should stop talking and start crafting a deal. >> reporter: that's the sentiment here in the hallways of capitol hill as well, sue. i can tell you that. we are starting to get a little more clarity on what's going on here today. i just had the chance just a few moments ago to button-hole senator harry reid here in the hallway, asking him a very specific question. i said did treasury secretary tim geithner come up here with a new specific offer for republicans? is that what he laid down on the table for speaker john boehner today? reid told me -- no, there was no specific offer here today from geithner to the republican side. he said that the president of the united states made the democrats' over two weeks ago and there's been no new specific offer since then. i think that explains
cliff. this time it was house speaker boehner speaking with reporters after meeting with treasury secretary tim geithner. eamon javers is in washington with the latest. eamon, the sentiment down here is these guys should stop talking and start crafting a deal. >> reporter: that's the sentiment here in the hallways of capitol hill as well, sue. i can tell you that. we are starting to get a little more clarity on what's going on here today. i just had the chance just a few moments ago to...
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let's quit having these fiscal cliffs. and let's not be threatening government shut downs. let's sit down in a good faith effort and that's what president obama is not doing. he's back on the campaign trail which will is unfortunate. he should be in washington here sitting down in a good faith effort to try and grow the economy. because that's ten times more effective. >> senator, what are the odds that you think we reach an agreement before january 1st? >> that's just hard to say. there are enough republicans that are showing a willingness and i'm certainly willing to sit down with anybody who is willing to negotiate in between faith. my guess is we probably will get it solve, but i hope item not done in a way that harps tms th economy. but the president has to show us his balanced plan. >> as you said yourself, probably not the way to do to negotiate either on television or in front of everybody. that's probably happening behind the scenes. >> becky, that's not negotiating. that's called putting your plan on the table. republicans have passed two budgets. we have a bipart
let's quit having these fiscal cliffs. and let's not be threatening government shut downs. let's sit down in a good faith effort and that's what president obama is not doing. he's back on the campaign trail which will is unfortunate. he should be in washington here sitting down in a good faith effort to try and grow the economy. because that's ten times more effective. >> senator, what are the odds that you think we reach an agreement before january 1st? >> that's just hard to say....
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that is dynamite. >> for the fiscal cliff. a dance off. >> thanks, simon. >> have a good weekend. >> you too. >>> let's check on energy and commodities. sharon epperson at the ime x this morning. >> not dancing down here carl but they are trying to figure out what is happening here with the u.s. fiscal cliff as well as in europe and in fact it is the situation in europe that really has helped to take the euro to a key level here right around 130 and that has helped some of the industrial commodities like oil and copper which are faring slightly better today. but only slightly. we're really not seeing much movement at all particularly when you look at the price of crude oil with bret crude right around $110 a barrel and wti futures under that 88.50 level. we haven't seen much movement in a whole week's time where we're basically where we were last friday. there has been of course volatility throughout the week. every headline that crosses about the fiscal cliff definitely sends traders fretting one way or another but there hasn
that is dynamite. >> for the fiscal cliff. a dance off. >> thanks, simon. >> have a good weekend. >> you too. >>> let's check on energy and commodities. sharon epperson at the ime x this morning. >> not dancing down here carl but they are trying to figure out what is happening here with the u.s. fiscal cliff as well as in europe and in fact it is the situation in europe that really has helped to take the euro to a key level here right around 130 and that...
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other people feel that everything goes down in a fiscal cliff situation. i mean, commodities are saying we're going to go over the cliff. that's what i think. >> it's interesting. there are these recent reports tallying how many american eagle gold coins americans are buying. is that the ultimate safe haven trade. if americans are buying gold coins in record numbers, the strongest sales since 1998, and it's not just seasonality here. it's interesting. >> i own some. i own silver. >> silver and gold. >> you can buy silver and gold. you can actually -- there's a big markup in coins. the government doesn't help. you can own pieces of silver and pieces of gold. >> do you have some on you right now? >> no, i don't. i have it buried in the backyard. i have it in a vault. never bury your gold in the backyard. >> i'll remember that. thank you for that advice. >> first we have to get backyard. >> el paso electric company celebrating tenth anniversary. yit celebrating its 100th anniversary. want to go straight to mary thompson with breaking news out of fdic. >> this
other people feel that everything goes down in a fiscal cliff situation. i mean, commodities are saying we're going to go over the cliff. that's what i think. >> it's interesting. there are these recent reports tallying how many american eagle gold coins americans are buying. is that the ultimate safe haven trade. if americans are buying gold coins in record numbers, the strongest sales since 1998, and it's not just seasonality here. it's interesting. >> i own some. i own silver....
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you're worried about what happens if we go over the fiscal cliff. play out the scenario for how things would go down if we actually do move past january 1 without an agreement. >> if you get lots of economist projections, you'll see the general view is the economy would have negative growth or a couple percentage points, whatever it is. near term recession impact. and that nt would be good to the economy because it's been moving its way out. what's really after people is will we be serious about fixing the long term problems of america's fiscal situation. basically having more revenue and less expenses so we can get the thing more if line. and that's pre-occupying people because they're worried about the longer term issue. if this doesn't move forward with a solution that actually starts to layout the ground work for the long term issues, it could be potentially disappointing. >> ceos say they have to lay out their plans for what they're planning on doing in january and they have to move forward with the plan that has an assumption that we don't get
you're worried about what happens if we go over the fiscal cliff. play out the scenario for how things would go down if we actually do move past january 1 without an agreement. >> if you get lots of economist projections, you'll see the general view is the economy would have negative growth or a couple percentage points, whatever it is. near term recession impact. and that nt would be good to the economy because it's been moving its way out. what's really after people is will we be...
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back to the looming fiscal cliff. a deal to avoid the cliff remains uncertain as both sides continue to fight over tax code overhaul. we're joined at post 9 by virginia democratic senator gang of eight member senator mark warner. welcome. down to nyse. good to have you. >> thanks for having me. >> we read about dinners at your house. senators trying to work something out on the side. clearly it collides with headlines we got over the weekend. >> we all know what the frame of this deal has to be. you have to get additional revenues. you have to find a way to reform the entitlements and make additional cuts and get a net net of minimum of 4 trillion over ten years. that sounds like a big number but when you think about the size of our economy and size of government spending over a ten-year period, this is so much remarkably smaller than what's being asked of people throughout europe and people in the u.k. and throughout the world. my hope is we are going to get the deal done. >> we have three weeks or so to play with at
back to the looming fiscal cliff. a deal to avoid the cliff remains uncertain as both sides continue to fight over tax code overhaul. we're joined at post 9 by virginia democratic senator gang of eight member senator mark warner. welcome. down to nyse. good to have you. >> thanks for having me. >> we read about dinners at your house. senators trying to work something out on the side. clearly it collides with headlines we got over the weekend. >> we all know what the frame of...
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gains were limited because of fiscal cliff concerns with no major progress out of washington. >> we're going to get the november jobs report at 8:30 a.m. eastern this morning. a survey forecasts 8% unemployment. that would be ticking up. 77,000 jobs added. a lot slower growth we have seen for much of this year. october 171,000 jobs were added then. it's likely hurricane sandy affected these numbers. they studied after hurricane katrina and the numbers were revise revised because it was too difficult for them to collect the data during and after the storm. in today's report we'll be watching four sectors. manufacturing, retail, leisure and hospitally and temporary help industries. mark sandy said aside from the storm, the job market turned in a good performance during the month. this is impressive given by the uncertainty of the presidential election. businesses are holding firm in their hiring and firing decisions. another unusual factor in the numbers, the layoffs and strikes at hostess. those could also affect the numbers. hostess filed for bankruptcy last month. i want to bring you
gains were limited because of fiscal cliff concerns with no major progress out of washington. >> we're going to get the november jobs report at 8:30 a.m. eastern this morning. a survey forecasts 8% unemployment. that would be ticking up. 77,000 jobs added. a lot slower growth we have seen for much of this year. october 171,000 jobs were added then. it's likely hurricane sandy affected these numbers. they studied after hurricane katrina and the numbers were revise revised because it was...
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house speaker john boehner and the president are hoping to break the fiscal cliff ice. now we're just mixing metaphors, left and right. speaking on the phone, 26 days left, of course, until we tumble over the cliff or slide down the slope or fall off the precipice or however you want to put it. we could, of course, face massive tax hikes, spending cuts. that's what the fiscal cliff is all about. it would all start with the start of the new year. i want to get to senator jeff merkley. he's a democrat from the state of oregon. he's on both the budget committee and the banking, housing, and urban affairs committee. nice to have you with us, sir. thanks for joining us. >> you're welcome. >> thank you. before we get to fiscal cliff, let's talk a little bit about syria. there are now reports that they may be loading the components that would make up sarin gas. and i'm curious to know and i think a lot of people are watching this, does this mean that we are headed, the united states is headed into military action considering what we know about the red line, if you will, that h
house speaker john boehner and the president are hoping to break the fiscal cliff ice. now we're just mixing metaphors, left and right. speaking on the phone, 26 days left, of course, until we tumble over the cliff or slide down the slope or fall off the precipice or however you want to put it. we could, of course, face massive tax hikes, spending cuts. that's what the fiscal cliff is all about. it would all start with the start of the new year. i want to get to senator jeff merkley. he's a...
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amanda says i can't afford to go off a fiscal cliff. i'm cutting down in expenditures and gary says i'm prepared to get my passport and look for a new country. stick a fork in it. we're just about done. are you listening, lawmakers and president obama? facebook.com/car facebook.com/carolcnn if you would like to continue the conversation. thanks for the responses. i appreciate t
amanda says i can't afford to go off a fiscal cliff. i'm cutting down in expenditures and gary says i'm prepared to get my passport and look for a new country. stick a fork in it. we're just about done. are you listening, lawmakers and president obama? facebook.com/car facebook.com/carolcnn if you would like to continue the conversation. thanks for the responses. i appreciate t
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towards the fiscal cliff. once considered untouchable third rail, changes to social security and other so-called entitlements are now being seriously discussed. >> we really have not gun to talk about real entitlement reforms. the only way you have true avoidance where you have solution is to mix an appropriate amount of revenues with true entitlement reform. and until the debate moves to that point, there's no serious debate taking place. >> house republicans offered a framework that includes raising the medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67 squeezing out savings from social security by changing the way inflation is calculated, and possible means testing that could disqualify wealthier, older americans from the medicare program. lawmakers insist any changes will be done gradually and will not impact current retirees, but that's not soothing the fears of seniors who say inflation adjustments will have an immediate impact. >> to tell somebody living on social security, and we have something in the order of one
towards the fiscal cliff. once considered untouchable third rail, changes to social security and other so-called entitlements are now being seriously discussed. >> we really have not gun to talk about real entitlement reforms. the only way you have true avoidance where you have solution is to mix an appropriate amount of revenues with true entitlement reform. and until the debate moves to that point, there's no serious debate taking place. >> house republicans offered a framework...
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. >>> the world is finally paying attention to the fiscal cliff, but you've known about the economic storm of our own making for months now. i i'maly velshi. this is "your money." i wasn't waiting to focus on this major threat to the economy. i wish others had. it would have given us more time to fix this major problem. at least now there's a focus on one thing and one dangerous man. a man who is not elected. who has never run pour office and is standing in the way after potential economic disaster. he's the ideological godfather of the tea party. grover norquist has been the driving force behind the anti-tax movement. his goal, to take big government and, in his words, drown it in the bathtub. norquist's weapon is the taxpayer protection pledge, which was at one point signed by 95% of gop members of congress. >> can you raise your hand if you feel so strongly about not raising taxes? >> on the campaign trail this year, only one republican presidential candidate, jon huntsman, dared to cross him. norquist has clout. he's called the most powerful unelected man in america today. >> he
. >>> the world is finally paying attention to the fiscal cliff, but you've known about the economic storm of our own making for months now. i i'maly velshi. this is "your money." i wasn't waiting to focus on this major threat to the economy. i wish others had. it would have given us more time to fix this major problem. at least now there's a focus on one thing and one dangerous man. a man who is not elected. who has never run pour office and is standing in the way after...
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it's fool toish think thish to drove us off the fiscal cliff. we're in the political dance now. we've seen this time and time again. there is still three weeks for a deal to be cut. the problem is that the white house threw down a heavy marker yesterday. we'll have to see if they're willing to compromise. it's got to be compromised on both sides. >> that's right. the marker they threw down, kevin, is it the white house says actual tax rates, the top tax rate, 35%, has to go up for the rich. and that limiting deductions won't be enough to get a deal. now you wrote in the atlantic this week that despite that there is a way around this for republicans who don't want to incur the wrath of norquist or as mark suggests, voters. how? >> right. so grover norquist pledge is actually incredibly misunderstood. it's based on what washington budgeting organizations call the current law baseline. what that means is that what scheduled to go into effect already is baked into the cake. and because the bush tax cuts are expiring provisions that were voted for ten years ago, it doesn't really cou
it's fool toish think thish to drove us off the fiscal cliff. we're in the political dance now. we've seen this time and time again. there is still three weeks for a deal to be cut. the problem is that the white house threw down a heavy marker yesterday. we'll have to see if they're willing to compromise. it's got to be compromised on both sides. >> that's right. the marker they threw down, kevin, is it the white house says actual tax rates, the top tax rate, 35%, has to go up for the...
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on the fiscal cliff. keep in mind time is a-wasting. in 32 days now tax rates soar, spending gets slashed. oh, and don't forget, congress, yeah, they get to take a break for the holidays in 14 days. a recipe for recession. the president is pitching a plan that calls for $1.6 trillion in tax heights and $50 billion in new infrastructure spending. he'll head to a manufacturing plant in pennsylvania to push all this. republicans aren't buying in. listen to house speaker john boehner's reaction. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. >> didn't take very long for democrats to hit back at speaker boehner. senate majority leader harry reid got up, a little personal. >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. >> i don't understand his brain. let's go to washington this morning. wow, just when we thought they were getting closer seems like they're even farther apart this morning. >> yeah, you know, the nice
on the fiscal cliff. keep in mind time is a-wasting. in 32 days now tax rates soar, spending gets slashed. oh, and don't forget, congress, yeah, they get to take a break for the holidays in 14 days. a recipe for recession. the president is pitching a plan that calls for $1.6 trillion in tax heights and $50 billion in new infrastructure spending. he'll head to a manufacturing plant in pennsylvania to push all this. republicans aren't buying in. listen to house speaker john boehner's reaction....
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politicians are taking a cue from november's playbook to get their message out about the fiscal cliff. >>> and a highway tunnel comes crashing down while cars are inside, igniting a fire. several people may still be trapped. [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no, not today. join me, aarp, and aarp foundation in the drive to end hunger by visiting drivetoendhunger.org. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. visit vwdealer.com today. but when i was in an accident..
politicians are taking a cue from november's playbook to get their message out about the fiscal cliff. >>> and a highway tunnel comes crashing down while cars are inside, igniting a fire. several people may still be trapped. [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no, not today....
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cliff. we only have 25 days until the tax hikes and spending cuts start to take effect. here is the thing. this number came in much better than expected, don. so the bad part about this is that it may not motivate all those politicians on capitol hill as much as it may have, if it came in much weak er. this may not light the fire, so to speak. that could be the downside to the upside surprise to the number. don? >> alison, stick around. we'll get back to you as well. >>> from wall street now to washington where the white house is keep iing a close eye on today's numbers. brianna keilar joins us now live. good morning, brianna. >> reporter: good morning to you, don. we're still awaiting reaction from the white house and also from congssional republicans. they've long said at the white house, take a look at the trend of these nuchls over the month. so this number, paired with the last couple of months on its face, they will say the trajectory looks good, obviously more needs to be done. maybe
cliff. we only have 25 days until the tax hikes and spending cuts start to take effect. here is the thing. this number came in much better than expected, don. so the bad part about this is that it may not motivate all those politicians on capitol hill as much as it may have, if it came in much weak er. this may not light the fire, so to speak. that could be the downside to the upside surprise to the number. don? >> alison, stick around. we'll get back to you as well. >>> from...
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america hits that fiscal cliff in 27 days and that means tax hikes and deep spending cuts if the democrats and the republicans can't come together in some kind of a deal and with just ten days remaining until congress is scheduled to go home for the holidays, the clock ticking. here's what he told bloomberg news. listen. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able it to get a deal without it. >> we start this morning with white house correspondent dan lothian, he's in washington, d.c. okay. so who's got the ball in their court at this point then, dan? >> well, you know, i think the house gop, they have presented their counteroffer which white house spokesman jay carney is referring to as, quote, magic beans and fairy dust. we expect that house republicans will keep putting pressure on the white house to engage, push for more details on what the white house will accept when it comes to additional entitlement cuts. but i think what's unclear is what kind of negotiating is going on behind the scenes. the white house saying that conversations cont
america hits that fiscal cliff in 27 days and that means tax hikes and deep spending cuts if the democrats and the republicans can't come together in some kind of a deal and with just ten days remaining until congress is scheduled to go home for the holidays, the clock ticking. here's what he told bloomberg news. listen. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able it to get a deal without it. >> we start this morning with white house...
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cliff. this morning at least one republican is saying it's looking more like that's going to happen. after the plan laid out by the white house. >>> and she helped care for more than 140 children whose parents are behind bars in nepal. now she's got a new title. cnn hero of the year. cnn hero of the year. "newsroom" starting now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> good morning. thank you so much for joining me. i'm carol costello. concern this morning that a young woman's death will be overshadowed by fame. by now, even if you're not a football fan, you know the name jovan belcher. you know he killed the mother of his child and then committed suicide. but what do we know about his girlfriend? his partner? the mother of his child, kasandra perkins? according to the kansas city star perkins and belcher were madly in love but argued of late. the star added many people knew that belcher owned guns and enjoyed shooting but they'd never known him to be violent. not even close. nbc's bob cos
cliff. this morning at least one republican is saying it's looking more like that's going to happen. after the plan laid out by the white house. >>> and she helped care for more than 140 children whose parents are behind bars in nepal. now she's got a new title. cnn hero of the year. cnn hero of the year. "newsroom" starting now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> good morning. thank you so much for joining me. i'm carol costello. concern this morning that a...
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. >> well, nobody wants anyone to go off the fiscal cliff. and the reality is we have to look over the last two years. the republican party established themselves as the party that was willing to let americans entire credit rating go down the tubes in order to stop barack obama last year. it's very clear that most people are going to see them as being the party that's being more obstinate. the truth of the matter is they also because they lost so badly in the election, nobody wants to be seen playing footsie with barack obama under the table which is what they're going to have to do to get this deal done. the republican party is going tond up being blamed which is one of the reasons they will have to compromise more. it's the same thing the democrats did when bush won. you have to compromise with the party that just won. jason johnson, john brabender, thank you thank you both. >>> the new york film critics have made their choices for top films and many times they end up as oscar favorites. all the details next. all the details next. we are ga
. >> well, nobody wants anyone to go off the fiscal cliff. and the reality is we have to look over the last two years. the republican party established themselves as the party that was willing to let americans entire credit rating go down the tubes in order to stop barack obama last year. it's very clear that most people are going to see them as being the party that's being more obstinate. the truth of the matter is they also because they lost so badly in the election, nobody wants to be...